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God created evil? |
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| Did God Start Evil? |
Last updated: 21-Jul-2025 |
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As an example of conflicting beliefs on what is good:
For the Christian, the scriptures give us God's instructions on how we are to think and act define what is good. Almost the entirety of the scriptures give definitions, actions, and examples of what God expects, requires, and should be happening our lives that will give us peace and love in our lives now with rewards in Heaven.
| Micah 6:8 | He has shown you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you but to act justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God? |
| Galatians 5:22-26 | 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another. |
In a summary statement, this topic will explore:
God exists outside of all of His Creations. God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ, and God the Holy Spirit are in Perfect Unity and all things that exist were created by God.
| 2 Peter 1:3 | According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: |
| Romans 11:36 | For of him, and through him, and unto him, are all things. To him be the glory for ever. Amen. |
| Colossians 1:16-17 | 16 for in him (God) were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; 17 and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. |
There is Evil on the Earth and the state of decay along with the theoretical science of Chaos shows that Evil exists. Since Evil exists, and it is not eliminated by God, then it will be used for God's purpose to give God Glory.
God's Angels and human-being who have Jesus Christ as their Savior will be part of God's Glory that is often called the Purpose of All History.
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Forbidden Tree topic: In Genesis 3:22, there is a point that this author has never seen in any Biblical Commentaries. The unseen point is very illuminating besides the traditional interpretations that are mentioned regarding verse 22 in Genesis 3 (shown below):
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Most conservative Biblical Scholars, including this author will state:
When Eve believed the temptation of Lucifer, speaking through
the snake, and Adam not being tempted still ate the
forbidden fruit in the
Garden of Eden, this caused all
future human-beings to have sinful natures.
All of this will work completely in God's Will and Glory despite the evil
created in humans.
(a) Adam's action of joining Eve in eating the forbidden fruit shows how
much Adam loved Eve to join her in her predicament as the scriptures
indirectly indicate that when Eve ate the Forbidden fruit, then
her clothing
of light was gone and she became "naked" without a covering.
(b) Adam's action is a model of what
Jesus Christ as He joined us
from Eternity into His Creation to make a restitution payment for the sins
of all humans through the life and crucifixion that
would accept Him as
their Savior.
| Genesis 3:7 | And the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; so they sewed together fig leaves and made coverings for themselves. |
| John 1:9-13 | 9 The true Light who gives light to every man was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through Him, the world did not recognize Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God 13 children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God. |
Some Christians will state that God created evil because of Isaiah 45:7, which is taking the scriptural verse out of context with the surrounding verses. Notice that God is directing his comments to "anointed Cyrus", where there is a manifest of details that:
| Isaiah 45:1-10 | 1 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut; 2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron: 3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. 4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the Lord have created it. 9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? 10 Woe unto him that saith unto his father, What begettest thou? or to the woman, What hast thou brought forth? |
| Romans 1:21-32 | 21 For although they knew God, they neither
glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became
futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22
Although they claimed to be wise, they became
fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the
immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds
and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them. |
| Exodus 7:13-14 | 13 And He (God) hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said. 14 And the Lord said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go. |
When the evil, that was started by Lucifer and the Fallen Angels, entered into the Earth before Genesis 1:1 and then later with the temptation and fall of Adam and Eve, then God used:
It is also interesting the study of Black Holes in outer-space, that some scientist have created mathematical models that describe Black Hole having the potential of being portals to other universes. This author first heard of this from lectures recorded in the 1960s where more a few recent theoretical studies have stated the Black Holes are closed, and may have been open at one time. From the Christian perspective, the idea of other universes is very interesting as the scriptures state that there are many dominions created by God, and one well-known PhD Christian speaker, from the 1970s, speculated that the portals in Black Holes are closed because of the rebellion of Lucifer and the Fallen Angels.
These three points have been sometimes falsely attributed to Albert Einstein. Whomever the author of the original points is a good starting point for the next section of this topic.
Notice in John 6:38-46 scriptural passage that Jesus Christ is stating He
only does the Will of the Father as it is perfect.
| John 6:38-46 | 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. 41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. 42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? 43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. |
In the life of King Saul, there was an evil spirit that tormented Saul which occurred after Saul was rejected by God for many actions against God's instructions. God absolutely can allow and also direct Fallen Angels or Demons to someone that is not protected by God. The Apostle Paul relinquished a person who was not yet a believer in Jesus Christ, but in their group participating as if a believer, because of their actions against the witness of the Holy Spirit. This is just like the Foolish Virgins parable where the women were listening but had not made a decision to ask Jesus Christ to be their Savior where Jesus Christ was teaching to do it before troubles came and you do it then.
| 1 Samuel 16:14 | 14 Now the Spirit of Jehovah departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from Jehovah troubled him. 15 And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. 16 Let our lord now command thy servants, that are before thee, to seek out a man who is a skilful player on the harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well. 17 And Saul said unto his servants, Provide me now a man that can play well, and bring him to me. 18 Then answered one of the young men, and said, Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Beth-lehemite, that is skilful in playing, and a mighty man of valor, and a man of war, and prudent in speech, and a comely person; and Jehovah is with him. |
| 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 | 1 It is actually reported that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not even among the Gentiles, that one of you hath his father’s wife. 2 And you are puffed up, and did not rather mourn, that he that had done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, being absent in body but present in spirit, have already as though I were present judged him that hath so wrought this thing, 4 in the name of our Lord Jesus, ye being gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. |
We cannot do anything good without God's direction in our lives. In John 15:4-5, Jesus Christ is giving us the admonition to understand our relationship with God is absolutely required for us. This is also the point of us living antireligious lives that has us developing a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
| John 15:4-5 | 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; so neither can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for apart from me ye can do nothing. |
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Suffering: For the Christian, God absolutely and uses 100% of suffering for His Purposes that we may not understand fully until after the Judgment Seat of Christ and Great White Thrown of Judgment.
The entire world recognizes that despite the ability for people to do good, that there are people that: start wars, commit murder, steel from others including their employer, commit adultery, abuse others, harm defenseless people, children and even animals, do not live up to commitments and and endless list of specific evils. It is interesting to hear those who oppose the thought of the existence of a Loving God, when they ask the question on "why is there suffering?" to somehow incorrectly prove that there cannot be a God. Because there is suffering and death in the world, then this is one of the primary reasons for many people to not believe or not think there is a God. The second statement by those do not believe in God is usually something to the effect of "if there is a God, then why doesn't He allow everyone into Heaven except for those like Adolph Hitler?" It is interesting to watch and hear from people, that are agnostics and atheists believe mankind is basically good. This, according to the scriptures, is not true.
From many Biblical Scholars perspectives, the fact that there is evil in the world actually proves indirectly that there is the possibility of a God. The proof is understanding that there are unknown reasons, with external influences, that somehow are able to change people to be evil and also evil people into good people. An example in the scriptures is someone like the Apostle Peter, who was a crude speaking unlearned fisherman, who became a very eloquent, dignified and gifted man after receiving the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. |
There are three paramount points:
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Gog and Magog topic on the
affects of being stung by the Locusts from the Abyss: In Pain for Five Months and Seeking Death There are two interesting and horrible consequence of being stung by the Satanic locusts of Revelation 9:
Some Biblical Commentaries have written and wondered how a person would seek death and not be able to commit suicide. The most-likely two possibilities is the sting will inflict so much pain:
As a minor comparison there are some diseases, such as Multiple Sclerosis, which can leave a person in the last stages of the illness to not be able to move easily. |
There is more to the details on the Stinging Locusts which can be read in the topic on Gog and Magog and relating to this topic on was Evil Created, where the questions by some Christians are:
For some a better understanding of the Locusts, that are part of the Tribulation Period's events, there many horrifying events that have specific purposes as judgments against the Antichrist and all people that have accepted the Mark of the Beast. In the "First Woe of Three", there are Locusts that sting that are released from the Abyss, which is a prison compartment of Lower Sheol.
| Revelation 9:3-4 | 3 And out of the smoke came forth locusts upon the earth; and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was said unto them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree, but only such men as have not the seal of God on their foreheads. |
The answer to the three questions, which is a theory by this author that is not in any Biblical Commentaries that I am aware of is:
| This is an excerpt from the
Gog and Magog topic in the section dealing with "Who
and What are the Locusts of Sheol and Link to Gog?" As discussed in the "Who is Gog?" portion of this topic who is described as the King of the Grasshoppers, therefore this author has the theory the locusts of Revelation are the imprisoned Fallen Angels of 2 Peter 4-5 (listed above) as part of the Tribulation Period's Bowl Judgments. This author's theory is these Fallen Angels have their body changed as part of their punishment. These imprisoned Fallen Angels, which involves spiritual chains, would be still be subject to and under a high-ranking Fallen Angel where the key verse is Revelation 9:1. The High Ranking Fallen Angel is Gog.
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| This is an excerpt from the topic on the Nephilim section on "Fallen
Angels Action, Consequences and Confirmation" with point number
three of four points: 3. We know that ALL of the Fallen Angels have not been cast into Tartarus but those who participated in the Nephilim creation have been cast into Tartarus. This following scripture in 2 Peter 2:4-5 specifically list the sin and the link in the time of Noah, where Peter is telling us they suffered an immediate punishment. Recall the scripture where the Demons were afraid of Jesus sending them into a place of torment and asked to enter the swine (pigs) in Mark 5:12.
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There will be a final revolt that is orchestrated by Lucifer is at the end of the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ. During the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ, the Fallen Angels, Demons and also Lucifer will not be active. Anyone that dies during the one thousand years will be because of an accident or for a sinful judgment consequence. Everyone that lives during the millennial kingdom should live for one thousand years plus the period of time after the releasing of Lucifer from chains in a compartment of Lower Sheol to temp the inhabitants of the Earth.
At the end of the Millennial Kingdom, Lucifer is release to cause temptations in the world with one last attempted war with God in the Second Armageddon Event that is before the Great White Thrown of Judgment. This event of Lucifer tempting shows that human-beings cannot operate separate from God and are capable of sin without God changing them into new immortal bodies that cannot sin.
At the Great White Thrown of Judgment, all Fallen Angels, Demons and Humans without Salvation will permanently exiled into the Lake of Fire for Eternity Future.
God destroys the Universe we know, that includes the Earth and also Heaven, as Lucifer and the Fallen Angels once occupied and thus tainted God's Kingdom. All those that are cast into the Lake of Fire will never see or know of the new Kingdom of God.
| Isaiah 65:17 | For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind. |
For more details, see the topics on the Kingdom of God and the Twelve Areas of Suffering in the Lake of Fire.
| The twelfth and final greatest pain is knowing
that no one in Heaven will remember anyone condemned to the Eternal
Lake of Fire after the Great White
Throne of Judgment. A portion of the scriptural passage of
Revelation 21:4's "wiping away of tears"
for those in Heaven, will be God removing any pain off: (a) sympathy, (b) remorse, (c) fear, and (d) love for those condemned to the Eternal Lake of Fire. This final twelfth's greatest pain, for those condemned, is the additional aspect of not feeling any hope of having someone still caring about them and remembering them that are located in Heaven. This adds to the pain of being utterly alone without hope. This is confirmed in Isaiah 65:17. Another additional proof of this point is God speaks about removing the memory of transgressions in Psalm 103:12 and other scriptures, so this will be necessary for those in Heaven to not continually morn for those in the Eternal Lake of Fire. Additionally, all of the Fallen Angels and Demons with their evil done to all of us will not be remembered, so the Fallen Angels, Demons and absolutely Lucifer will have zero satisfaction in having caused pain and suffering because no one in Eternity will remember anything they have done! |
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What to read next?
See: (a) Time and Time Travel, (b) Time Domains, (c) Kingdom of God, (d) E=mc , (e) Evolution, (f) Ten Dimensions of the Universe, (g) Singularity and the Big Bang Theories, (h) Gap Theory of Genesis 1:2 - Earth formless for billions of years